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	<title>Comments on: Safari 3 Faces Off Against Firefox</title>
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		<title>By: ValleyBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.mostofmymac.com/articles/safari-3-faces-off-against-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-16593</link>
		<dc:creator>ValleyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disappointed with this review. I agree with another poster that the review was biased against Firefox from the beginning. I was hoping this review would help me understand and characterize the performance of each browser. It did, but just a little.

1) The benchmarks are from Apple. They are not independent numbers. So, the data is useless. As others have noted, Safari &quot;cheats&quot; on the benchmarks, so the numbers are suspect.

2) The reviewer is fundamentally ignorant of the features of Firefox, which includes the extensions. The excuse that the comparisons were &quot;right out the box&quot; doesn&#039;t make much sense. People pick and chose which extensions they use so that the core product won&#039;t be loaded down with all the other useless crap they don&#039;t need. That&#039;s the entire point of the extensions: keep the core product small and fast. This is the same principle as the Mach kernal, the heart of Max OS X.

3) Safari&#039;s restriction of searching using only Google is almost unforgivable. In the June 2007 PCWorld review, 3 of the 4 Yahoo search properties beat Google for text search. So, Safari restricts you to using an INFERIOR search engine.

Also, the search completion feature mentioned as a part of Safari is actually part of the Google search, and both Yahoo and Google have that as part of Safari.

4) Safari&#039;s exclusion of the keyboard shortcut for making all tabs into a bookmark is really ackward for me. Apple actually *removed* the existing Firefox shortcut for this. Why ? The function is still there, just the shortcut is gone.

Finally,  As I understand, Safari *IS* Firefox with a different rendering engine. Therfore, the claims made in the comments that Firefox copies Safari are uninformed. In any case, I&#039;m assuming as decent engineers that take the best features and incorporate that into their own product.

5) I&#039;m still looking for a Safari extension like FireFox Flashblock. With my old PC, with about 15 tabs or so, Flash ads took over the CPU (97% or so). Even though I have 8 CPU&#039;s on my new machine, that is a tremendous waste of time that Safari imposes on my machine.

I wish this review had been more helpful. It was in a small way, but it leaves out a whole lot, and I&#039;m definitely not a browser/web expert.
 
And yeah, my new Mac Pro *ROCKS*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disappointed with this review. I agree with another poster that the review was biased against Firefox from the beginning. I was hoping this review would help me understand and characterize the performance of each browser. It did, but just a little.</p>
<p>1) The benchmarks are from Apple. They are not independent numbers. So, the data is useless. As others have noted, Safari &#8220;cheats&#8221; on the benchmarks, so the numbers are suspect.</p>
<p>2) The reviewer is fundamentally ignorant of the features of Firefox, which includes the extensions. The excuse that the comparisons were &#8220;right out the box&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make much sense. People pick and chose which extensions they use so that the core product won&#8217;t be loaded down with all the other useless crap they don&#8217;t need. That&#8217;s the entire point of the extensions: keep the core product small and fast. This is the same principle as the Mach kernal, the heart of Max OS X.</p>
<p>3) Safari&#8217;s restriction of searching using only Google is almost unforgivable. In the June 2007 PCWorld review, 3 of the 4 Yahoo search properties beat Google for text search. So, Safari restricts you to using an INFERIOR search engine.</p>
<p>Also, the search completion feature mentioned as a part of Safari is actually part of the Google search, and both Yahoo and Google have that as part of Safari.</p>
<p>4) Safari&#8217;s exclusion of the keyboard shortcut for making all tabs into a bookmark is really ackward for me. Apple actually *removed* the existing Firefox shortcut for this. Why ? The function is still there, just the shortcut is gone.</p>
<p>Finally,  As I understand, Safari *IS* Firefox with a different rendering engine. Therfore, the claims made in the comments that Firefox copies Safari are uninformed. In any case, I&#8217;m assuming as decent engineers that take the best features and incorporate that into their own product.</p>
<p>5) I&#8217;m still looking for a Safari extension like FireFox Flashblock. With my old PC, with about 15 tabs or so, Flash ads took over the CPU (97% or so). Even though I have 8 CPU&#8217;s on my new machine, that is a tremendous waste of time that Safari imposes on my machine.</p>
<p>I wish this review had been more helpful. It was in a small way, but it leaves out a whole lot, and I&#8217;m definitely not a browser/web expert.</p>
<p>And yeah, my new Mac Pro *ROCKS*</p>
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		<title>By: thanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>thanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one appreciated your review. Thanks for taking the time to post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one appreciated your review. Thanks for taking the time to post.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I do believe some of this article is correct, but if you get one the firefox plugins, it will look exactly like safari, so interface is really a neutral. 

Also, when running on a windows machine, safari kind of . . .crashes. A lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I do believe some of this article is correct, but if you get one the firefox plugins, it will look exactly like safari, so interface is really a neutral. </p>
<p>Also, when running on a windows machine, safari kind of . . .crashes. A lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark SoftWare Top &#187; Safari 3 VS Firefox 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark SoftWare Top &#187; Safari 3 VS Firefox 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alper</title>
		<link>http://www.mostofmymac.com/articles/safari-3-faces-off-against-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-13653</link>
		<dc:creator>Alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely prefer firefox over all others, not just safari. But If I make a list, especially for usability
1. Firefox
2. Opera
3. Camino
4. Internet Explorer (mac)
5. Safari

Safari is not a bad browser (none of the above is).
But it needs much much higher flexibility for an advanced web user. If a safari user wants many of the firefox&#039;s options (not to mention countless add-ons) 
he or she needs some commercial add-ons. What a pity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely prefer firefox over all others, not just safari. But If I make a list, especially for usability<br />
1. Firefox<br />
2. Opera<br />
3. Camino<br />
4. Internet Explorer (mac)<br />
5. Safari</p>
<p>Safari is not a bad browser (none of the above is).<br />
But it needs much much higher flexibility for an advanced web user. If a safari user wants many of the firefox&#8217;s options (not to mention countless add-ons)<br />
he or she needs some commercial add-ons. What a pity!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug-at-large &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Safari 3 vs Firefox on the Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug-at-large &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Safari 3 vs Firefox on the Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Raihan Hasnain</title>
		<link>http://www.mostofmymac.com/articles/safari-3-faces-off-against-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-12232</link>
		<dc:creator>Raihan Hasnain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just had a head to head comparison.
today im having connection problem, my target was to see which one loads windows live mail faster.

I entered the address on Safari and then firefox (well actually Gran Paradiso).

Firefox took less than a minute to let me read and delete the mail.

And Safari took 7 minutes to do the same. :&#124;

Winner: Firefox. :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just had a head to head comparison.<br />
today im having connection problem, my target was to see which one loads windows live mail faster.</p>
<p>I entered the address on Safari and then firefox (well actually Gran Paradiso).</p>
<p>Firefox took less than a minute to let me read and delete the mail.</p>
<p>And Safari took 7 minutes to do the same. <img src='http://www.mostofmymac.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Winner: Firefox. <img src='http://www.mostofmymac.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using the restore session feature of firefox option for ages: you just have to set it in preferences and it automatically restores your last session when you reopen it.
Also, you failed to mention the different ways they deal with RSS feeds (IMO a major part of browsing).
Personally I love the live bookmark feature firefox has, allowing you to easily see headlines from your favourite blog/news site without changing what you&#039;re viewing.  However, I know others prefer Safari&#039;s way of doing it:  with a new tab that shows all the headlines, as well as how many you have yet to read.

I still prefer firefox because of its customizable search bar and live bookmarks feature.  Regardless of the improvements apple has added to Safari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using the restore session feature of firefox option for ages: you just have to set it in preferences and it automatically restores your last session when you reopen it.<br />
Also, you failed to mention the different ways they deal with RSS feeds (IMO a major part of browsing).<br />
Personally I love the live bookmark feature firefox has, allowing you to easily see headlines from your favourite blog/news site without changing what you&#8217;re viewing.  However, I know others prefer Safari&#8217;s way of doing it:  with a new tab that shows all the headlines, as well as how many you have yet to read.</p>
<p>I still prefer firefox because of its customizable search bar and live bookmarks feature.  Regardless of the improvements apple has added to Safari.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch the fastest browser running on any platform in action - very revealing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX1ZY4ASHsM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the fastest browser running on any platform in action &#8211; very revealing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX1ZY4ASHsM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX1ZY4ASHsM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Safari port&#233; sur Windows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Safari port&#233; sur Windows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Il est d&#233;j&#224; compar&#233; aux r&#233;sultats de Firefox 2 et est dit plus performant&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Il est d&eacute;j&agrave; compar&eacute; aux r&eacute;sultats de Firefox 2 et est dit plus performant&hellip; [...]</p>
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